It’s the number of streams that counts

Posted 01 Feb 2012 — by
Category Pay outs, Spotify

Yet another indie artist complaining about Spotify’s royalty rate on Hypebot.com But maybe we should focus more on the number of streams in stead of the payment per stream.

In a comment Joe Taylor proves this point as he quotes an article he has written for the Record of the Day magazine:

“If Spotify could pay you 100,000 euros for one track in a tiny country like Sweden, imagine how much you’d earn for a no. 1 album in a huge country like the USA once Spotify has achieved good market penetration.

Yolanda Be Cool’s We Speak No Americano is eight times platinum in Sweden (where streams contribute to their certifications). Tracks like this can get close to 100,000 streams per day at their peak, and could reach 50 million streams in total. It conceivable that one track could earn 100,000 euros in Spotify revenue just in Scandinavia – which is better than the iTunes era or even the peak of the CD single era.

“Also, while the majority of tracks in the iTunes catalogue don’t sell, the majority of tracks on Spotify are streamed, so Catchy Tunes are earning good revenues from tracks that didn’t chart when initially released. Playlists help here – Catchy Tunes have a playlist called Dancefloor Hits in partnership with Sony Sweden which has nearly 140,000 subscribers. Every Friday and Saturday evening, plays peak as people get ready to go out.”

Zoe Keating on streaming and artists getting paid

Posted 29 Jan 2012 — by
Category Pay outs, Spotify

Spotify playback on mobile and desktop simultaneously

Posted 20 Jan 2012 — by
Category Spotify, Spotify Tips

Users are reporting that they now can use Spotify with the same account on a mobile device and a desktop at the same time and playing different songs. No more “Spotify has been paused because your account is used somewhere else“.

It only works with a combination of a mobile app and a desktop client. Sonos and other systems are using the desktop stream so playing both on your Sonos and your computer doesn’t work.

Bug or new feature?

This remains unclear. So far no comment from Spotify. But wouldn’t it be nice if Spotify would allow this permanently. Makes having a Premium account even better.

More info from the Swedish website Allt om Mac (Google translation)

I will keep you updated on any new developments

Update!

On Withholding Music From Spotify

Posted 18 Jan 2012 — by
Category Pay outs, Spotify

Yet another article on this subject on Hypebot.com. This time by Scott Perry of New Music Tipsheet and entertainment industry marketing and consulting firm Sperry Media.

But this time the discussion has an interesting outcome. Scott had a talk with some folks from Spotify and this is what he posted as a comment later:

Scott Perry:

I had an amazing conversation with the folks from Spotify this morning, really helped me see all this from another angle. So I’m gonna play devil’s advocate — against myself!
I’ve been focused on my peer group, a set of hard-core music fans who are ultra-wired. And yes, their purchasing has focused more on the must-have releases, while their streaming consumption has increased.
BUT you have to realize that less than 1% of Americans use streaming services, so it is hard to tell what kind of impact streaming has truly had on purchasing habits for the country at large.
AND on top of this, streaming services are winning over age groups that have never spent a PENNY on music — you project the growth among the 20something music consumer by offering an easier, cleaner alternative to file sharing, and you can see the potential size of the market.
From what I was shown, keeping music off streaming services mainly leads to an increase in consumption via YouTube (which pays out less), P2P networks, and less savory streaming services.
And can you really measure what impact streaming has had on any of last year’s #1 sellers, or any release for that matter? Did Spotify’s 2011 chart topper, Foster the People, really suffer less sales because of more streams? Or were they able to get a larger fan base because of their ubiquity?
Conversations like this are happening at management and labels every day. How we move forward will be a delicate balance, since consumers are moving towards streaming models whether we like it or not.
The biggest challenge any of us have is to unilaterally foster the growth of this emerging revenue model, so that it grows from add-on revenue to being bigger than the revenue streams it will inevitably replace.

I have contacted Scott and asked if he can share the data he was shown. To be continued…..

 

Airplay for Apple TV on all your (Spotify) Apps

Posted 15 Jan 2012 — by
Category Apps, hardware

Not all new Spotify iPhone apps have an option to switch on Airplay to stream to your Apple TV device.

Like the SpotON Radio app as much as I do, but can’t find the link for Airplay?


 

Here is the solution:

  • Push the Home Button twice
  • Swipe to the right twice

And there it is:

Works for every app on your iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch!

 

 

The mailbag

Posted 14 Jan 2012 — by
Category Pay outs, Spotify

For those who haven’t subscribed to the Lefsetz Letter . Here is a nice article on labels and artists pulling music from Spotify.

Every now and than Bob also emails some replies he received. Here are a few I thought I should share:

Subject: I love Spotify!

I have made my own 45s/albums/cds for about 25 years (ever since a big time manager told me back in the 80s that if I would wear some spandex and poof out my hair he would get me a deal on Atlantic-he already had some other million seller groups there and was good buddies with Doug Morris) I told him to fuck himself and started making and licensing my own stuff over in Europe…I managed to get my own record deals over there and tour for the past 25 years or so …

The most any one record of mine has sold is around 15,000 back in the early 90s…judging from the hits at my website over the years I think I might have 4,000 to 5,000 solid fans at any given time…not many but they are super loyal!…

And guess what?…for about the past year when I get payments from cdbaby (3 or 4 times a month)  1/2 to 2/3 of the money is from Spotify! …there is also money from Napster and Rhapsody and the rest from iTunes…I love Spotify man!…it’s where most of my money selling music comes from at the moment!…it isn’t alot of money right now, but it’s enough to make a car payment or half my mortgage payment every month consistenly…I’m sure I’ll make alot more from Spotify when I am able to release some fresh recordings for my fans… The sooner everything goes to Spotify/streaming the better!!!

***!!!Please don’t use my name should you print this in one of your mailbag posts!…thanks!!!***

______________________________

________From: steve poltz
Subject: Re: Tattoo DisappearsI’m so glad you just wrote about this. I was having breakfast this morning with Haley Jones PD of KPRI and music/patent attorney Dave Branfman in San Diego and I whipped out my trusty iPhone to play them the new Van Halen track. I said “let me pull up Lefsetz’s email because there’s a link.” All eyes were on me and then nothing… I was just telling them how much I dug the track and how cool Spotify is. It’s been bugging me all day where the track went. Thanks for clarifying. I had the ear of the PD as just a musician friend passing along my opinion of a track. She wasn’t that into the track from hearing it at a work meeting and said “let me hear it again.” It was all timing gone bad because she was ready to listen at that moment. Like I really care because I don’t work for a label. I was just a musician catching up with friends but I wanted talk about the track and dance around like an idiot and she really wanted to hear again. I suppose I could’ve bought it but I was trying to prove a point about how cool the future is. So I lost my boner and we started talking about Newt Gingivitis et al.Whatever,
Poltz
http://www.poltz.com

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From: Jason Orr
Subject: Re: Tattoo Disappears

Well said.  I’m a paying Spotify user and half the time when I go on Spotify it’s to check out a new act. When that new act is not on there, I say – oh great, back to YouTube.  And I bet you 50% of those times I don’t even bother switching to YouTube and never even check out that new band.  I end up listening to something else that actually showed up on my Spotify search.

When will they learn…

 

 

It’s raining Apps!

Posted 11 Jan 2012 — by
Category Apps, Spotify

Last year Spotify opened their platform for developers to write applications that utilize Spotify. Now the first results are popping up:

Clementine Player

Clementine is a multi platform music player for your local files, Grooveshark, Last.fm, SomaFM, Magnatune, Jamendo, SKY.fm  Digitally Imported and Icecast. Now it has added Spotify as well (Premium needed)

You can create playlist using tracks from different services and you local files. Unlike Spotify Clementine also plays FLAC, WMA en more.

SpotON Radio

SpotON brings Spotify Radio to your iPhone. Pick one of your favorite artists, and tap to create unique radio stations similar to their style. Think Pandora. Like and dislike songs to fine tune your station.

Free download at your local iTunes App Store

Soundrop Radio

Probably you know Soundrop already as an App in the Spotify App Finder. Soundrop is a social jukebox app for Spotify. Enter live music rooms and listen to what’s being played, or become the DJ and add tracks or vote up songs to be played next. Now you can use it on your iPhone as well.

Free download at your local iTunes App Store

We haven’t seen Android versions of these Apps yet.

Artists benefit from partner deals Spotify

Posted 21 Dec 2011 — by
Category Pay outs, Spotify

A week ago ago I posted a CBbaby statement that was handed to me by the band Finn Silver

I was puzzled by the unit prices for streams of the same song. Three different amount could be explained for,  the tiers Free, Unlimited and Premium, but eight different rates?

Digital Distributor Songport was kind enough to disclose that this can be accounted for by the deals Spotify has with telco’s and ISP’s like Telia in Sweden, Virgin in the UK and KPN in The Netherlands.

The good news is that these partner deals may have a positive effect on the payments per stream. Customers of  the partners get Spotify Premium for free, but they probably are not using Spotify as much as the ones who pay for it with their own money. Every month  part of the revenue from the specific partner is split by the number of streams by their customers, so artists get more per stream. Sometimes over $0.01. See the statement below.

 

Can Spotify streams really hurt sales?

Posted 20 Dec 2011 — by
Category Pay outs, Spotify

Labels like ST Holdings pulling their music from Spotify and big acts like Adele, Coldplay and The Black Keys not releasing their latest albums on Spotify. What’s going on? The reason for this anti-streaming position is obvious: they all think streaming hurts sales. Is Spotify the new enemy after years of putting the blame on filesharing? Of course Spotify draws a lot of attention. With 10 million active users it is the most successful streaming music service by far. The 10 million number and all the hype around Spotify may lead to the feeling that the whole world is using Spotify. Let me attempt to put the 10 million users in perspective.

Internet access and Spotify usage
Spotify is available in 12 countries so far. Let’s take a closer look at the population and the internet users in these countries. Source: www.internetworldstats.com

Of course not every internet user is into listening and downloading music. A few months ago Musically.com referred to a report from the Internet Infrastructure Foundation in Sweden. It’s called Svenskarna och Internet 2011 ( PDF file in Swedish) According to this report 57% of the Swedish population uses the internet to listen and download music. Now let’s assume that the situation in the other 11 countries is more or less the same. (I know that you really cannot compare things in such a simple manner, but let’s do it anyway.) That would mean that there are 336 million people in these 12 countries who use the internet for music. 10 million of these 336 million people use Spotify. That’s just 2.9 %!

Can such small percentage cause sales to drop in any significant way? Highly unlikely!
Could Spotify be the reason for the 30% decline of sales ST Holdings witnessed? Well maybe if all their customers happen to be in the 2.9% niche. If you can defy the odds in such a way, leave the music business and go buy a lottery ticket.

Why the fear of streams?
I guess the cause of all this is that labels and artists now see data they have never seen before. Statements of their distributors are showing more streams than ever. For the first time they can actually tell how many times people listen to their songs. They don’t have any other data other than sales to compare this with. Just like with illegal downloads, every stream probably feels like a missed sale  But you just can not compare streams with sales. Listening and buying are worlds apart.

Why is the revenue of streams still that disappointing? The answer seems easy. Because in this stage only 2,9 % of all internet music users in just 12 countries are listening with Spotify. It has all just started, there is not enough volume yet. Labels and artist consider a higher payment per stream as the solution, but the real solution lies at the start of the calculation: more streams! And trust me there will be more streams. The US, the biggest market of them all with 272 million people with internet access, has little over 2 million Spotify users now. That is such a small percentage. You cannot even show that in a graph.

Taking a look into the future

For this we just have to view the current situation in the country where it all started: Sweden. You may have read about Spotify being the largest digital music retailer in Norway and Sweden. The report from the Internet Infrastructure Foundation in Sweden that I mentioned before also shows that 37% of the Swedish population who has internet uses Spotify. In Sweden Spotify launched September 2008. It took them 3 years to reach this market share.

Now imagine what would happen if Spotify can achieve the same 37% user level in all the 12 countries. That would mean 168 million Spotify users.

Imagine a band having a great review on about every influential music blog. If that would make 10% of all these 168 million users listen to a song once it would generate 16 million streams. With the current pay out per stream to indie artists ( $ 0.0063 ) the revenue is  $100,800. What if that one song is a killer track and people started listening to it over and over again for years in a row? And what would happen if Spotify gains access to more countries?

The Swedish report I mentioned earlier has more promising data (chapter 04). 86% of 16-25 year-old Swedes are using Spotify, with 55% listening on a daily basis. A whole new generation is being brought up with listening to music in a legal way.

And that’s not all. Two thirds of 26-35 year-old Swedish Spotify users are paying for the service and the majority uses the service several times a day.

A different approach
Too many flaws and uncertainties in the calculations above? Too much wishful thinking? Then try this approach. iTunes pays about 70c for a download to an (indie) artist. The pay per stream will of course never reach this 70c. The way things are developing right now we may witness a pay out of 1 cent per stream soon. According to this article on MusicThinkTank it seems unlikely that the amount per stream will rise further. One cent per stream means you just need 70 plays to match an iTunes sale. Is that impossible to achieve? Isn’t it way easier to get someone to listen to one of your songs than to get them to buy it?

Time and patience
I really believe that streams can create substantial revenue for artists. It just takes time and a little patience. Jumping Spotify after looking at your first statement like ST holdings did…. well need I say more?
Let me show you an example of the revenue of Ugress who’s music is on Spotify since 2009.

His patience was rewarded. Spotify and it’s Norwegian competitor Wimp bring in more than iTunes does. Need another example? Check this post from the UK label Kudos Records.

One more thing
Feel free to comment. I have already been called a Spotify fanboy, an idiot, insane, a Spotify troll and such. I’m not on the payroll an have no financial interest in Spotify. So please, skip the name calling. Why am I doing this then? Because I love music and Spotify is the best thing that happened to me musically speaking. I hate the holes in the Spotify catalog, especially if they are there for no good reason. Artists, I would love to listen to your music and you deserve to get paid for this. Streaming can help us both out.

The next few days when you hear the usual Christmas tunes, take in mind that most of the 10 million Spotify users will play Last Christmas at least once (like it or not). They probably all have some Christmas CD lying around with this song on it, but out of sheer convenience they start the song in Spotify. 10 million plays will make George and (who was that other guy again?) $ 63,000 this year. Isn’t that a nice Christmas bonus? And next year? Over $ 100,000? Could be the record label takes most of that, but that’s George’s and the other guy’s problem.

Happy Holidays!

Hans Handgraaf
www.spotidj.com

 

 

Now you can really share your playlists in Spotify

Posted 17 Dec 2011 — by
Category Spotify Tips

Maybe you already know the #1 Spotify playlists site ShareMyPlaylists.com. Great news! This site is now integrated in Spotify. The new ShareMyPlaylists app takes sharing and discovering playlists to the next level. I could tell you a lot more about the possibilities and features, but why not try it out yourself?

Fire up Spotify, click the App Finder and add the ShareMyPlaylists app

This Christmas you can easily find or create the ultimate Spotify Christmas playlist! Have fun!